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Have you? — Unsigned, by: Rationaldriver / talk / contribs

A long quote

Could you please keep an eye on this? I'm not going to remove the long quote unless enough consensus is reach, and I'm not going to respond to James' provocations, but he seems to the warpath so... -Lankaster (talk) 19:25, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree with Lankaster on this one. While I have no problem with long page quotes, what does that specific quote have to do with the article content? RoninMacbeth (talk) 19:44, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
"I'm inclined to agree with Lankaster on this one..." Then please comment directly on Rationalization Talk Page. I wrote here just to make a moderator aware that things could escalate and that I'm trying my best to avoid that. -Lankaster (talk) 20:06, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Oh wow, Lankaster said he wanted some consensus before making any changes, and true to form, he makes an edit without getting any consensus, and now I can't revert or people will come down on me like a ton of bricks. As usual, you're dishonest to the nine. James Earl Cash (talk) 20:08, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
"Lankaster said he wanted some consensus before making any changes and true to form, he makes an edit without getting any consensus" False, I said "I'm not going to remove the long quote unless enough consensus is reach" (click). -Lankaster (talk) 23:00, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, you still put your quote on the page without consensus to try and weasel your way in while knowing I can't remove it without people coming down on me, but you'll bitch at me over and over again for removing a minor couple sentences you wrote even though I already explained I thought they were article bloat. If I had tried what you did just now, you'd be crying to everyone until someone would take pity and see your way if only for how loud you whimper. James Earl Cash (talk) 23:21, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Please stop with the accusations and get to the argument. As I am not familiar with the discussion, I can't offer much opinion right now but keep in mind that when it comes to top page quotes, brevity is important. Of course it should accurately sum up the page or at least show an interesting perspective. But again, brevity is key, unless you absolutely must have the quote on the top of the page. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 00:26, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Did I just get Stefan Molyneux'd on Rationalwiki? James Earl Cash (talk) 06:51, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Did I just see "Stefan Molyneux" used as an adjective? RoninMacbeth (talk) 06:56, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
It has the same ring of being Zuckerberged. I can't think of a way to say "Not an argumented," without it being drawn out and awkward. James Earl Cash (talk) 06:58, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

DarkMaster2

Why did you block him? RoninMacbeth (talk) 05:38, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Harrassment

See Dysklyver's talkpage for more information. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 19:17, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Lower activity

If anyone noticed, it's because a computer I used often is having issues and constantly crashing so I am more and more reliant on hooking mobile to contribute, though it's very unwieldy. So yeah, I am probably missing on a few situations and I wish I can engage more, but I wish not on mobile... --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 19:03, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that. I tried editing on a mobile phone once; it was a rather unpleasant experience. I'd rather bake my tablet after inscribing my essay on it. Nerd (talk) 20:32, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Same here. I once tried creating a page from my phone, and what happened was every phone-using wiki editor's nightmare: I highlighted the entire content of the page, but then my finger accidentally hit that microscopic "BACKSPACE" button on the touch keyboard! I was so frustrated that I gave up on creating the page... but one day I will... from my computer... --Goatspeed. Watch meCircularReasoningSteal my ideas 01:42, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Pissed.

I'm going to go finish some updates to my computer and then play one of the Elder Scrolls games. Let me know via my talkpage when people stop acting like idiots over the Gillette Manufactroversy and realize that they're just free advertising for said company. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 23:03, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

I was going to ask you if you're really feeling all right because you're being really... shouty. I hope you feel better and I hope to probably limit your interaction with morons because they can drive you pretty nuts. I don't know, as long as right-wing outrage culture exists, more of this is gonna happen. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 23:05, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Half the problem is innate knowledge and aptitude for exploiting others for egocentric reasons, and hence recognizing said behavior. I'm serious, with a different roll of the dice I'd be the guy cooking up and/or directing these kinds of publicity stunts. I'd likely be payed a decent amount too. What really pisses me off isn't the current comments, it's the knowledge that A) this will happen again in the future over some otherwise trivial shit, and B) the galling understanding that social progress is being monetized by companies for their own ends. The current crop of stupid is just the pale reflection of those facts. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 23:13, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
I see. But I think what matters is how you deal with it. It's okay to get angry over this, but I don't want you breaking a nail or getting depressed over it because society is stupid. That being said, I do think it's rather depressing that companies use social progress only as an advertising point. I really don't see how promoting LGBT+ is going to affect sales of a candy bar and honestly, these companies should be actually addressing income inequality rather than accumulating cash rather than spending money on so many commercials and advertising stunts. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 23:30, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Actually, Ms. Mario, companies, like people, tend to do whatever it is they are incentivized to do. In the language of economics, they tend to maximize profits/utility and minimize costs. Therefore, they will promote social progress or oppose it if it advances their bottom line. In our example, they are spending a large sum on advertising as an investment that, they hope, will generate additional demand for their products, which would increase their profits. When designing an advertisement, it is generally a good idea to catch on with whatever is trendy at the time in order to capture as much attention as possible. @GrammarCommie has a point here.

To both Mario and Comrade Grammar: Sometimes it is a good idea to disengage. Consider moving/spending more time over at Wikipedia if you must be online editing something. Also consider reading some books. Nerd (talk) 23:40, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't think I'll ever be a successful marketer if it means seeing everything in just profits and disregard morals and consumer happiness. :/ I know I love books and I feel like there's never enough time when I'm at a bookstore, library, or museum, you know? I always spend A LOT of time in book places, and I know this because my legs start getting sore just from standing and walking and browsing books. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 23:45, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Ha ha! No worries. I would suck, too. But the key to remember is that people respond to incentives. Economic policy is all about getting the "bad guys" to do the "right thing." I do recommend an introductory course on economics if that is at all an option for you. It will open your eyes.
Likewise. While other people may love window-shopping or actual shopping, I prefer to just go to a bookstore or a library and kill my time. And quite conveniently, books provide valuable sources for my edits. :-) Nerd (talk) 23:58, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
@Nerd Disengaging was the major idea behind this topic. And thank you for understanding how hollow these "controversies" are. I really hate when people completely miss the point on this sort of thing, since there is an actual problem, and even material for debate, it's just lost under all the yelling. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 01:42, 18 January 2019 (UTC)