Talk:Anti-Catholicism

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What about the abuse controversy? I think there is no denying the Catholic hierarchy has been guilty of many bad things. But, the thing I find objectionable, is when it is presented that Catholics are the only religious group with that problem (molest kids and the leadership covers it up), when many other religious groups have been guilty of the same thing — off the top of my head, I am aware of cases of Anglicans, Buddhists and Jews doing it, and I'm sure many other religions/denominations are equally guilty. Is presenting this as a uniquely Catholic problem, as opposed to a much broader problem, an instance of anti-Catholicism? People point to certain things, which they see as providing a uniquely Catholic angle, like celibacy - but in doing so they ignore that many other religious groups also practice celibacy - Eastern Orthodox monks, nuns and bishops; Buddhist monks; Hindu sadhus; etc. (((Zack Martin))) 10:21, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I think that the major difference between celibacy of the Catholic clergy and celibacy of monks and nuns is that in general priests are in the wider community and interacting with juveniles with out any direct supervision instead of being cloistered in an more closed community with greater oversight. There is also a lot to be said for the "out of sight, out of mind" aspect. Redchuck.gif ГенгисmutatingModerator 10:59, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
I would not assume that "priests interact with community", "monks/nuns cloistered". The Catholic abuse allegations aren't just about the actions of priests, but also those of religious brothers/sisters - many Catholic orders of brothers and sisters, neither priests, would teach in Catholic schools, run Catholic orphanages, etc., and thus have significant access to minors to abuse. But, we shouldn't assume that it is just Catholic celibates who are actively involved in their communities; Buddhist monks, for instance, will often play a significant role in the religious education of Buddhist children, produce ample opportunities for unsupervised access to minors. It is also common in Buddhist countries, for minors to become monks for a period of time, which also gives them further access to minors. Celibacy is not the same as being cloistered, and it is not just Catholicism that has non-cloistered celibates. And, as I mentioned, if we look at Jewish abuse allegations, celibacy is strongly discouraged in Judaism, but that has not stopped abuse happening, and then being covered up by the Rabbinical leadership (many Rabbis think that embarassing the Jewish community is the greater evil than the sexual abuse of children - see today's news) (((Zack Martin))) 11:40, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Too narrow[edit]

This article is called "Anti-Catholicism", but is exclusively about anti-Catholic bigotry. It seems to me that if we're going to have an article about anti-Catholic bigotry, it should be called "Anti-Catholic bigotry".Fdof (talk) 03:46, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

The truth of this comment on the narrowness of the article is further attested by Anti-Catholic thought from the liberal, elite, educated Unitarians in the mid-20th century in particular, Paul Blanshard's "American Freedom and Catholic Power", and again in 2003 with Geo. La Piana and John Swomley's "Catholic Power vs. American Freedom" (Herbert Vetter, ed.)

It would be disingenuous to lump these in with the simple bigotry of early anti-catholicism in America... But Roman Catholic apologists try to do that... Hopefully a Rational approach will be different.

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Never Surrenderrrrrrrrrr? 171.33.222.26 (talk) 16:03, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Anti-Catholicism can still pop up among Evangelicals when particular topics are raised[edit]

While I agree that anti-Catholicism isn't as pervasive among Evangelicals and other radical Protestant strains as it was in the past, it still pops up when it's pointed out to them that the Catholic Church accepts evolution. This will often provoke a very "old-school" bout of Catholic-bashing and, from the more rednecked variety of Evangelicals, a version resplendent with conspiracy theories involving Jesuits in particular. You can see a similar reaction to the change of tack brought by the current Pope, though this will tend towards borrowing from the wingnut rhetorical toolbox, rather than "old-school" religious anti-Catholicism. ScepticWombat (talk) 12:30, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Black Pope[edit]

Some of the entries under this websearch are perfectly legitimate: others are ... within the remit of RW/this article in particular. (Spoiler alert - probably not worksafe). 82.44.143.26 (talk) 18:30, 24 January 2017 (UTC)