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President Donald Trump's Executive Order on Combating Human Trafficking and Online Child Exploitation in the United States[edit]

Newsworthy executive order from the President. Like I says in the executive order, "As the United States continues to lead the global fight against human trafficking, we must remain relentless in resolving to eradicate it in our cities, suburbs, rural communities, tribal lands, and on our transportation networks. Human trafficking in the United States takes many forms and can involve exploitation of both adults and children for labor and sex." Can someone add this to What's Going On In The World? --1.136.109.156 (talk) 17:57, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Graham Linehan article[edit]

Ireland has been an independent nation since 1922 so why does it have a Union Flag next to it? Fix up, Little Briton, fix up. LondonGrump (talk) 09:22, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

What? Minish (talk) 09:49, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
It has the Union Flag because the event affects both Ireland and the UK. Tuxer (talk) 22:24, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

The article is now gone, giving a 404 for me. I was wondering if it was false but I found [1] showing a Tweet suggesting he was really doing something so I'm not sure why it was removed. Of course assuming it isn't prevented for legal reasons, whyever they removed it, this common modern practice of just randomly deleted article rather than at least leaving an explanation is something very annoying and confusing. Nil Einne (talk) 15:14, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Actually reading that more carefully it does mention Linehan threated litgation over the headline since he's helping someone compile a database rather than compile it himself. I assume that's why it was removed. Nil Einne (talk)
I replaced the original article link with an archive snapshot. --Cosmikdebris (talk) 20:01, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Fixed some spelling errors on the article. Hopefully there's no other ones--Boredsocialist (talk) 11:27, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

another event adding to an increasing risk of a 21st century reawakening of the Troubles.[edit]

not really. the real ira and the continuity ira has been going (relatively speaking) for the last 20 years. AMassiveGay (talk) 14:51, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Not to mention there's a group called the New IRA ( NIRA ) nowadays--Boredsocialist (talk) 11:32, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Rishi Sunak's 5% cut to UK public services[edit]

is nothing new because Sajid Javid proposed them two weeks. Same shit, different face. LondonGrump (talk) 22:50, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

is it coincedence...[edit]

โ€ฆthat trump is nostalgic for gone with the wind in his oscar rant? AMassiveGay (talk) 15:54, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Now I'm not telling you guys to buy his book, but how much of this alarmist crap do you think is true? ๐Ÿค”[edit]

It's a long video, and it's filled with dirty marketing tactics and logical fallacies, but I've seen some videos of the quarantined cities in China and videos posted from citizens neglected by the government... I believe a section should be added about this to the 2019CoV RW page. http://survivecoronavirus.org (sorry if this is off-topic and in the wrong place) ๐Ÿ˜— Unsigned, by: 174.5.40.87 / talk / contribs

Based on nothing more than the scare-mongering name of the weblink, less than 1%. Semipenultimate (talk) 20:59, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

I still think some of it is worth a look. It's that kind of unanswered stuff that breeds conspiracists. — Unsigned, by: 181.215.110.129 / talk / contribs

Trump boasting[edit]

Trump brags about his 'natural ability' for science because of his 'super genius uncle' who was an MIT professor and claims CDC officials ask him how he knows so much about the coronavirus. He says : "Every one of these doctors said 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8084629/Trump-brags-science-knowledge-super-genius-uncle-MIT-professor.html Occultations (talk) 13:42, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

I will not lie...[edit]

...That's actually a genius idea.โ€” Jeh2ow Damn son! 15:48, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

I think we're going to need a separate "What is going on with the coronavirus" WIGO[edit]

Just like we've got "What is going on with the elections" to stop this page getting filled up with nothing but election stuff, I think we're going to need another WIGO for the coronavirus. Otherwise, a good part of this year's WIGO World, certainly the rest of March, all of April and all of September to December, could end up being nothing but the virus. Spud (talk) 16:33, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

I think that's a good idea. Then, once the pandemic subsides, we can just archive it or something. G Man (talk) 04:48, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
already got duplicate articles in clogs and world Aloysius the Gaul 22:54, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Islamic State puts out coronavirus advisory advising quarantine and handwashing[edit]

http://theprint.in/world/trust-in-god-wash-hands-before-eating-flee-from-sick-isis-issues-coronavirus-advisory/380771/ Whats that clickhole article? "The Worst person you know just made a great point" or some such? 96.241.209.54 (talk) 12:37, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes. โ€” Oxyaena Harass 13:42, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Stop putting clogs-worthy content in WIGO World![edit]

Things like Trump caling a report terrible for making questions, the Senator saying it's ok for millions to die to save the economy or the "lick the floor" guy should be placed in Clogs, not here. Stop doing that.Tuxer (talk) 12:40, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

The President having a meltdown when asked to reassure people isn't newsworthy? You do understand that Clogs is for fundies and conspiracy nuts, right? Not the fucking President of the USA. Right? RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 13:26, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Clogs: "This is RationalWiki's snarkilicious take on some of the more "WTF?" or egregious blog posts, editorials, videos and social media posts out there"
Blogs: "all the interesting world news and current events that relate to RationalWiki's mission here"
Think you've got the wrong end of the stick Tux. Nuf said. Scream!! (talk) 13:35, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

We have WIGO for Covid-19[edit]

Can we use that? Thanks. I was also cussed out by @RoundeTheeHorne for commenting out a story that's certainly related to the pandemic (it says right there that it's policy related, a response to the virus) and we're still getting news on it. Can you guys please follow instructions? Or at least clarify what goes on there and not on WIGO World? Sheesh. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 18:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Typo[edit]

Israeli Supreme Court rules in favor of prisioners' rights to unlimited time phone calls. Demoncard (talk) 04:09, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

I corrected the typo. But in future, feel free to do this yourself. Bongolian (talk) 05:15, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

labour, antisemitism and dogshit poor wigos[edit]

this wigo is bullshit from start to finish.

first off, it is not 'the' report in to antisemitism. its a report on some individuals within the labour party, only some of which deals with antisemitism. it is a report drawn up in the dying days of Corbyn leadership that shows factionalism within the labour, but only the anti Corbyn faction. some individuals in the report were involved in investigating antisemitism, and it seems be intended to throw shade on whistleblowers who are providing testimonies to the ehrc or have made them to panorama. its unclear who commissioned the report or who wrote it. the focus is more about supposed efforts to undermine Corbyn, and to have him ousted by causing him to lose the general election. to call this 'the' report into antisemitism is misleading bullshit doubly so when stating that the report will not be sent to the equality and human rights commission when in labour has sent plenty of evidence to ehrc already - it was deemed by lawyers not within the scope of ehrc's investigation, which itself is ongoing.

the wigo's claim that it disproves claims of antisemitism within the labour party, the claim it was a manufactroversy, is complete bullshit contradicted explicitly in the report in the report itself - 'the report thoroughly disproves that antisemitism is not a problem in the party, that it is a smear or a witch hunt. the reports prove the scale of the problem, and could help end the denialism amongst parts of the party.' you will note that's the exact opposite of what this wigo claims, and it is even highlighted at the end of article linked to within the wigo, as is the fact the labour has already made a number of submissions to the ehrc.

the bulk of this report is made up of emails and WhatsApp chats where party members say mean things about Corbyn and pals, because hey are meanies. claims of providing misinformation and inaction are at this stage unproven claims. the factionalism in this report is both one sided and nothing new in the labour party, indeed the whole report is as much an example as it is expose.

for fucks sake, stop posting dogshit wigos and actually read the articles linked. AMassiveGay (talk) 13:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

im commenting it out. its a complete misrepresentation of what is essentially Corbyn supporters failing to take any responsibility at all for labours failures. AMassiveGay (talk) 13:09, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
I actually read the wigo before posting it which is why I added it. I will change the wording but unless you can evidence to the contrary that blairites cynically used antisemitism charges to push for status quo horseshit, you're just whinging. Tuxer (talk) 15:02, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
the report itself says the complete opposite. you are full of shit. AMassiveGay (talk) 16:04, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
you drastically over state the of significance of factional report on anything but the factionalism within the labour party. AMassiveGay (talk) 16:09, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
as for 'whinging' - considering the bullshit that was originally in the wigo, go fuck yourself AMassiveGay (talk) 16:15, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
I suspected you were bullshiting but thank you for confirming it.Tuxer (talk) 17:54, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
you are full of shit. you've not addressed anything I have said. I repeat. go fuck yourself AMassiveGay (talk) 18:40, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

I have provided more evidence for anti-Corbyn bias than you have about anything. Tuxer (talk) 19:57, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

then you haven't read what my initial complaint was then dumb fuck AMassiveGay (talk) 20:01, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Ugh[edit]

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/14/beyond-predatory-trump-treasury-department-gives-banks-green-light-seize-1200

Somehow the bourgeoisie always find a way to be so self-servingly corrupt, even evil, and don't give me your pro-capitalist bullshit on this. This is, and I quote, "beyond predatory."

Anyone who's okay with this is a monster, and the people who allowed this should be shot. The people who perpetrate this should be slowly tortured to death. I am *beyond* pissed.

Capitalism is dying, and it's taking all of us down with it. We're screwed. โ€” Oxyaena Harass 13:59, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

I agree that this is a truly despicable thing, but I don't think calling for torture and violence is appropriate in any case. Whatever empathy I had with your position went right out the fucking door when you advocated genocide. Cosmikdebris (talk) 16:17, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Spare me your moralizing shit, this is definitely "let them eat cake." They don't care if we die, hell at times it seems like they want us to die, pay evil unto evil is what I say. This is the problem with fucking liberals, they always endeavor to take the moral high ground even if it means losing. If you honestly think I`m advocating genocide you're insane, but I`m not gonna FUCKING weep for some piece of shit billionaire when he gets his due, hell, I'll be celebrating it. โ€” Oxyaena Harass 18:23, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Rather than pitchforks and torches, the best tool to use for this probably is (as much as I bitch about the scene :) ) social media. Many major banks are not using the stimulus to pay uncollected debts even though they could. One bank, USAA, was doing so, but switched pretty quickly after users bitched hard about it on social media. The reason is pretty obvious: the optics are very, very bad to take away emergency money in a pandemic (obviously). So while a bank could Ebenezer Scrooge hardball, they'd be stupid to do so IMHO. If a bank happens to be, feel free to direct vicious anger at them, they will deserve it. :) Soundwave106 (talk) 20:12, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
On the other hand I think this might be America's "let them eat cake" moment. Ok maybe not but as an outsider I must say that America's situation is pretty bad and the only guy who could fix it lost the primaries. I guess we start praying that the guilotines memes remain just that.Tuxer (talk) 17:56, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Speaking as a mod: hold off the violent rhetoric. Thanks. --It's-a me, Lgm sigpic.png LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 00:46, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

I feel like getting all worked up about the violent rhetoric and ignoring the actual problem here is what makes liberals so ineffective, they get all worked up over style without taking into account substance. Now Soundwave deals with substance without harping exclusively on style, I like that. โ€” Oxyaena Harass 07:05, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Presentation is a thing. You could be the greatest orator since Cicero, but if you're standing there with a great big clown nose and your pants round your ankles, vanishingly few people will ever take you seriously. Stop doing / saying stupid stuff and see what happens? Helena Bonham Carter (talk) 13:22, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
You think this is my only forum? Also, Troll. Furthermore, I've been told many times I am a great orator, but to each their own I guess. โ€” Oxyaena Harass 13:55, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

The Intercept[edit]

If we're using that as a reliable source now, can we use The Drudge Report too? RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 07:51, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

And why do you think the Intercept is not reliable?Tuxer (talk) 09:02, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Something something neoliberal bullshit something something. โ€” Oxyaena Harass 09:49, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
You mean besides it being the last resort for the Sandersnistas, determined to get Trump reelected? But sure, go ahead and spread long-discredited propaganda. Look where "but her e-mails' got you. Then again. you'll all be dead before November, so it won't matter. RoundeTheeHorne (talk) 11:44, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
No, you piece of shit, this is legitimate evidence that lends credibility to Tara Reade's report. What happened to "believe her," you evil fuck? โ€” Oxyaena Harass 09:10, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Nobody on the left gave a shit about Clinton's emails it was manufactroversy pushed by rating-seeking media and rightwing degenerates. Also Joe Biden is a boring centrist that has all of Clinton's weaknesses and none of her few positive qualities as a politician. He very likely will lose to Trump.Tuxer (talk) 15:29, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Media Bias/Fact Check rates The intercept as "high" in factual reporting, but properly recognizes its left bias. However they rate Drudge as a "questionable source" "due to promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories, as well as for publishing fake news and the use of highly questionable sources." Comparing the two is not valid. Cosmikdebris (talk) 15:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
A better comparison of The Intercept is Reason.com, which is also high in factual reporting, but has an extremely strong libertarian tilt. As such, any reporting seen at Reason that would be the sort of story that tickles a libertarian's worldview should give consideration that they probably won't say anything about the counterpoint. I would say the same for The Intercept and anything that tickles the progressive left's worldview (though The Intercept is pretty good at "kicking the ball rolling" with various investigative reporting). CNN also has an article on the subject in question and the difference is that the Intercept article is all about one side, and the CNN article includes both. Soundwave106 (talk) 19:13, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

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Drama[edit]

Silvercorp USA and Venezuela[edit]

It's in terrible taste because of the loss of life and the incipient harm to our already "strained" relations with Venezuela, but I actually burst out laughing when I saw that this Jordan Goudreau cat had taken to Twitter in the midst of his operation and apparently equipped them with at least one airsoft rifle. I think he might actually be the Soldier from TF2. --Artificius (talk) 18:44, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

So this is less a sequel to Bay of Pigs and more a gritty remake of Michael Moore's Canadian Bacon.-- Forerunner (talk) 22:52, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Kind of an obscure (or maybe dated, I was young when that came out) reference, and gods I hope not. It's a stupid movie, but most of the analogous events are only in the potential future. Trump may yet equivocate and claim good people on both sides as he's wont to do when his rhetoric gets real somewhere. --Artificius (talk) 03:46, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

In addition to the Adding of the two public holidays, can it be mentioned that it was announced on the Day of Remembrance for the Victims of the Crimean Tatar Genocide[edit]

Not to be that guy who makes excuses for conspiracy theorists and anti-immigration jack a loons, but I feel like we should mention that the government of Ukraine's decision may have been out of respect for the tens of thousands of people who died in the mass deportation. Otherwise, it sounds like something Pamela Geller could use for their Eurabia conspiracy. — Unsigned, by: 209.128.2.98 / talk

Some flags of countries that are not Arab countries are showing up as flags of Arab countries[edit]

Like Turkey, Cyprus, Iran and Israel. — Unsigned, by: 173.52.214.86 / talk

Are you referring to the fag-changing gif Middle East flag loop.gif? That's Middle_East_flag_loop.gif and isn't intended to show only Arabic nations, but all Middle Eastern countries. MrChris (talk) 10:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
And the news story that it's illustrating mentions Turkey and Iran. And it's taken from an Israeli newspaper. Spud (talk) 14:30, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

why is this WIGO so depressing?[edit]

I donโ€™t understand how come this WIGO is so negative and full of depressing news, canโ€™t we at least post something positive for once? — Unsigned, by: 99.203.29.203 / talk / contribs

No, the world is a horrible place filled with worn out husks, spiteful pigs and greasy, used car salesmen. AceModerator 02:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@Ace McWicked You forgot about spilled milk. So much spilled milk... โ˜ญComrade GCโ˜ญMinistry of Praise 03:28, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Minneapolis rioters beat, rob disabled woman, spray her with fire extinguisher[edit]

Can someone add this to the page? Pretty big. --2001:8003:59DB:4100:4C5F:B01:29FA:2061 (talk) 02:51, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

http://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-file/ Put the webshite away please, no one wants what you're selling. 74.58.218.79 (talk) 04:12, 30 May 2020 (UTC)