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Herein goeth anything regarding the technicalities of the wiki

  • Problems with accessing/editing the wiki
  • Problems with MediaWiki/HTML/CSS/Javascript/etc.
  • Questions about RW's configuration/extensions/servers/etc.
  • In short, anything tech-y goes here

External links:

Semi-frequent updates about RW's technical status are available at RationalWiki's blogspot.
To view or suggest changes to configuration files and MediaWiki extensions, see RationalWiki's GitHub.

Users:

Users with Tech rights: see Special:ListUsers/tech
Users with root on the servers: David Gerard (dgerard@gmail.com) and Tmtoulouse

If your IP is blocked from editing as an open proxy: You need to go to your provider about it. The lists we use are xbl.spamhaus.org, dnsbl.tornevall.org, all.s5h.net. If your IP is on one of these lists, then your provider has a serious problem they need to resolve. We cannot get your ISP out of the blacklist.

Subsection link (sticky)[edit]

What extension does Wikipedia use to get the subsection links next to each subsection title? Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 13:39, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

What r u talking about? ClickerClock (talk) 04:45, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
I think Fuzzy means the "§" link that appears next to the headings, that links to the anchor for that heading. (once again, memorising the ASCII code for section signs comes in handy!) —Kazitor, pending 08:28, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

@FuzzyCatPotato, yall happy now?

See the main article on this topic: Goat § What to do with a Goat and a stool

Encyclopedia § EtymologyWikipedia's W.svg See the Wikipedia article on Encyclopedia § Ancient times. —ClickerClock (talk) 05:24, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Not what I meant... I mean, that's really good :) But I recall there once being a § link next to the actual sections on a page. I'm not sure where it went. —Kazitor, pending 05:35, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
I have no idea what you mean. —ClickerClock (talk) 05:44, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Like, on the page there is a heading that says "Subsection link (sticky)". Next to it, either before or after the "edit" link, there was a single, grey "§" link that appended the appropriate anchor to the URL, e.g. §. —Kazitor, pending 06:13, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
Screenshot? —ClickerClock (talk) 12:34, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Subsections playing up (sticky)[edit]

===Goat===.jpeg

I've seen this a few times, it was this revision and the wikitext seems normal. Christopher (talk) 09:33, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

The error occurs when a subsection is immediately before the end of a page. I'd bet that this is a result of the MediaWiki upgrade, but I've really no idea. FU22YC47P07470 (talk/stalk) 17:06, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
And as these edits should make clear, this only occurs on certain pages. It could also be a template -- maybe something didn't close a div or a span and it's fucking with the subsections. Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 17:07, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
This is not a result of the recent upgrade. This has been an issue for years.—HamburgerPlate Spinning-Burger.gif (talkstalk) 17:09, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Content dumps (sticky)[edit]

All of the internal links to backups on RationalWiki:Content dumps fail. Also, what is the status of @David Gerard's archive.org port? Bongolian (talk) 02:15, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

yeah, they're all old. No, haven't pushed that forward at all, sorry - David Gerard (talk) 12:27, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
@David Gerard reminder to do this -- might be convenient to do on same day you take elections live FuzzyCatPotato of the Bright Crab cakes (talk/stalk)

Voter suppression (closed - no voters suppressed)[edit]

I went to the voting booth and it said I've already voted, but I didn't. Help pls ;-; Sρɾıɡɡınɑ (τɑlk) (conτɾıbs) @ 00:11, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Same here. RoninMacbeth (talk) 00:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
I was able to vote, but it seems other users have also experienced this - [1]. --RWRW (talk) 00:22, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
It says I've already voted, but I haven't. Cosmikdebris (talk) 00:26, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
I reported this problem to David Gerard, who thought he fixed it but apparently has not. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 02:26, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
FUCKING COMPUTERS. Just a tick ... - David Gerard (talk) 07:21, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
try now - David Gerard (talk) 07:23, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
I just managed to vote myself - David Gerard (talk) 07:52, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
@David Gerard Thank you, the voting function is working again. ☭Comrade GC☭Ministry of Praise 17:44, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Same here. Thanks David! RoninMacbeth (talk) 18:39, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Works now. Thanks David. Cosmikdebris (talk) 19:14, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
Resolved: The election happened and was just fine once those pesky computers had been dealt with. Dysklyver 16:28, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Raw URL rendered at the end of a citation is displayed[edit]

  • Do not display the raw URL that is rendered at the end of a citation.

Per Template:cite book

  • {{cite book|author=Mark Twain|title=Adventures of Huckleberry Finn: (Tom Sawyer's Comrade)|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=zuvXAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA3|year=1885|publisher=Collectors Reprints Incorporated}}

Undesirably displays url

  • Mark Twain (1885). Adventures of Huckleberry Finn: (Tom Sawyer's Comrade). Collectors Reprints Incorporated. http://books.google.com/books?id=zuvXAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA3.

Soulution

Per the Common.css used by WikipediaWikipedia's W.svg – the raw URL is rendered at the end of the citation per spec., but is hidden—except when printed.

/* For linked citation numbers and document IDs, where
   the number need not be shown on a screen or a handheld,
   but should be included in the printed version */
@media screen, handheld {
    .citation *.printonly {
        display: none;
    }
}

Dbz (talk) 03:48, 20 November 2018 (UTC) && 03:26, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Time Zones (closed)[edit]

In the Saloon Bar, @Spud made an excellent suggestion that Holydaze Templates be made time zone-sensitive. People do come here from all over the planet after all. Can someone with the technical know-how please get that done? Thanks! Nerd (talk) 15:20, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately this is not really possible because the RationalWiki server does not currently have anything that actively tracks the location of it's users. Theoretically we could hack together some javascript or an extension to start doing this, but it seems pretty evil to me. Dysklyver 15:22, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Oh, bugger. It is not possible to anonymously locate users? Nerd (talk) 15:25, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Technically yes, but it involves a process intensive javascript thingy being loaded on every page so the users own browser does the work. This would have a performance impact on the entire site. Otherwise all the other options basically involve the RW server collecting the users IP address and sending that to a geolocation lookup service. Wikipedia does this with a geo cookie and some other tracking functions. Dysklyver 15:37, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
I`m not in favor of doing such a thing. Isn't RW supposed to be against tracking?--Don Juan (talk) 14:42, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Resolved: Tracking is evil. No obvious easy workaround right now. Dysklyver 16:29, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Passwords[edit]

This is for the two people with server access. I think it should be considered. To improve password security, make $wgPasswordAttemptThrottle more restrictive, and add a $wgPasswordPolicy value, maybe a MinimalPasswordLength of 8 or 10 characters. Dysklyver 16:08, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

"Should be considered" and "improve security" is not clear enough. What's your specific concern? That user accounts are vulnerable to hijacking? ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 16:23, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Nevermind, I saw the saloon bar post. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 16:26, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
set the following:
$wgPasswordAttemptThrottle = [ [ 'count' => 3, 'seconds' => 60 ], [ 'count' => 10, 'seconds' => 300 ], [ 'count' => 50, 'seconds' => 60*60*48 ], ];
let's see how it goes - David Gerard (talk) 22:32, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
Seems good to me. Dysklyver 13:32, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
actually I'll just make that 5 => 300 - David Gerard (talk) 20:50, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Supremely important bot[edit]

Kazitor seems to have gone LANCB. The User:Archiver page suggests that Kazitor probably had a very high bus factor and that Archiver is now stuffed on a permanent basis. Who is the backup? Dysklyver 13:37, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

@FuzzyCatPotato ran the archiver for a while, yes? - David Gerard (talk) 20:49, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Which of us should run it now? I'd be interested but I`m too much of a lazy bastard to actually put all of my time into RW, I`m content with fucking around with the edit filter.--Don Juan (talk) 20:51, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
@David Gerard Correct. But Kazitor took over.
@Dysklyver I volunteer. But I will have to be trained. How difficult is it? Nerd (talk) 21:00, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
I have no idea. I don't even know where the code is or where the bot is hosted/was hosted or even if it is hosted, as it may be a run-yourself item. Basically we need to find the bot itself, and find someone to run it. Dysklyver 21:34, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Can't someone come up with a new bot that fulfills the exact same function? Or just ask FCP for the source code or where it is hosted the next time he comes around.--Don Juan (talk) 22:22, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
The sensible thing to do would be to put the code on Github so it doesn't get lost, unless it is already there, and then link to it from here so it can easily be found and run by anyone. Dysklyver 22:26, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @Dysklyver Well, if you scroll down to the bottom, Kazitor said he would give the login information to a "trustworthy" person in case of his departure. However, the last time the bot operated was just a few days ago. Kazitor may not be particularly active right now but that does not necessarily mean he is not operating the bot. Nerd (talk) 22:34, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

It's a bot, it may simply operate automatically until wherever it is running from is switched off. I can simply use the renaming tool to free up the username if it's needed, the issue is only the bot/code itself. Dysklyver 22:37, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
In that case, you should contact FuzzyCatPotato and Kazitor directly. Nerd (talk) 22:46, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

to anyone interested @Nerd @Dysklyver @Don Juan

[1] create account with bot perms [2] install pywikibot [3] run pywikibot setup.py for non-Wikimedia Foundation wiki and using {{Talkpage/Pibot}} (i forget the details but is very easy) [4] edit archivebot.py according to User:Archivist#archivebot.py [5] schedule to run every day or so (eg crontab on linux)

Fuzzy. Cat. Potato! (talk/stalk) 02:52, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

By "bot perms" did you mean "bot permissions"? How do I do that? I cannot give an account bot permissions. I'm just a Sysop, not a Tech. Nerd (talk) 03:06, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
@Nerd either [1] ask for tech perms from a mod or [2] ask a tech to give the user bot perms Cømяade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 08:11, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
@Nerd @Dysklyver @FuzzyCatPotato I`m setting up the bot right now.--Don Juan (talk) 14:59, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
@Don Juan Thank you, and good luck! Nerd (talk) 15:10, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
@Nerd You're welcome. Might take me a few days, my attention span ebbs and flows, but I've already started the initial process, including downloading the most recently updated version of pywikibot by Gitbash, also I made sure to create an initial "archivist.py" file, for when I have everything set up, and I set up the account for the bot, as I said, I've taken the initial steps.--Don Juan (talk) 21:02, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Filter testing[edit]

In a few minutes I`m going to create an account with an obscene username to test our filters, automatic and otherwise. If no-one responds, then people need to pay more attention to the "Recent Changes" log. I'll let you know that it's me, RW's least favorite dipshit, on the (hopefully) blocked user's talkpage.--Don Juan (talk) 08:12, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Updated filter accordingly, apparently cocksucker was a valid username. Key word being was, because I updated the filters to compensate. Wait to see if the username triggers it or not, may have to log in again to trip it up, or someone, not being myself, blocks the account, but not the IP.--Don Juan (talk) 08:19, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Teh filter will only on the createaccount action. That's why the filter blocks my username but doesn't block me all the time when I login and edit. Dysklyver 11:50, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Which is exactly what I was going for, anyone who wants to create an account with the elements "cock" and "suck" as part of their handle will be prevented from doing so.--Don Juan (talk) 13:32, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
I recommend against filtering out the word "dick", because the word "dick" also is a name, shorthand for "Richard".--Don Juan (talk) 13:42, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Yeah I kinda think it is an unfortunate name. I mean you wouldn't name your child "penis" unless you were a literal moron. Dysklyver 13:50, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Agreed, but thanks anyways for the new name for my unborn child.--Don Juan (talk) 14:12, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Who the fuck decided swear words in usernames is bad in the first place?[edit]

What the fuck? What the hell kind of prudes are we now? And you're not even remotely ready to address the scunthorpe problem either. This seems like a terrible idea. Why are you doing it? ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 15:21, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

I've disabled both the auto-reject and auto-block features of this edit filter. New filters are 100% "ask first" things. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 15:24, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Heh. I dunno, maybe we were getting carried away. Nevertheless I have enabled warning only on the filter so anyone tripping it will be warned that their edit "could be harmful". Dysklyver 15:36, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
I mean, if there was some plague of "fuck this wiki" wandals or whatever, I'd be okay with one we turn on for a week or something. But the existing edit filters scunthorpe a lot already. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 15:50, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
There are, I recommend keeping the (secret) and (secret) parts of the filter up for blocking, or just to create a new one with those in place. -- Don Juan (talk) 16:00, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Agreed, but those are still there in the another filter, so it should be fine. Dysklyver 16:33, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
And those filters do things like check newuser. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 16:40, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I mean, swear words are ususally a poor choice for a username just as words for bodily fluids anyway. I am not sure what's really the big deal of the filter though we should limit potential false positives these can generate. --It's-a me, LeftyGreenMario!(Mod) 18:29, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Let's not do a blanket ban. Not every use of every possible vulgarity is vulgar. Consider Cock RobinWikipedia's W.svg and All-day sucker.Wikipedia's W.svg Bongolian (talk) 19:18, 4 December 2018 (UTC) Also, we should never forget Dick Butkus.Wikipedia's W.svg Bongolian (talk) 23:24, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
The oolon filter is deleted now. Whoever that troll was quickly figured out how to bypass it and then got bored and went somewhere else. Dysklyver 12:40, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
There's an old saying that has been passed down by generations of Internet users: "Don't feed the troll." Always works, should follow this sage advice more often. Ɖøn Ĵuan (talk) 12:44, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
haha yeah what an ass. Iikib xikkyogus (talk) 15:55, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Meh. I half wish there were more trolls so I could practise filter magic, but whatever. Dysklyver 16:37, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Regarding my bot Archiver2[edit]

Python fucked up, missing a file, have to repair it. Finally decided to get off my lazy ass and do some work on the bot. I'll give project updates as we go along.--Don Juan (talk) 15:04, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

The original archiver seems to be running again. Dysklyver 19:39, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Technical note[edit]

The edit filter now has bot rights (added by RoninMacbeth) because of the shiteton of spambots it is blocking with filter 57. I think this might be the default situation unless the SEO spammers go away. It's been running a while now with no false positives (and a better warning) and its performance can be seen via the filter log. If anyone is wondering why edit filter doesn't show in recent changes anymore, this is why. Dysklyver 20:59, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

This seems to be an eminently sensible arrangement. --MtDBogan 21:01, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Renumbering ordered lists within a column list[edit]

Is it possible to specify a starting number other than 1 for an ordered list within a column list? I tried this, but it failed: {{collist|3|
<ol start="9">
<li>Item 9</li>
<li>Item 10</li>
<li>Item 11</li>
}}
Bongolian (talk) 21:25, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes: try here. Scream!! (talk) 21:40, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
Seems that's what you did. So I dunno! Scream!! (talk) 21:44, 16 December 2018 (UTC)


No: it works:

  1. nine
  2. ten
  3. eleven

or:

  1. nine
  2. eight
  3. seven

Scream!! (talk) 21:48, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that works, but not when you stick it within a collist. Bongolian (talk) 21:54, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

ol/li is the HTML definition for an ordered list, and template:div col (whats inside collist) uses a div with list definition css, so this is probably conflicting. If this functionality is really needed a new template can be made to accommodate it. Dysklyver 23:06, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

It would be useful for me because I'm planning a very long list that would look better if it could be broken into chunks with continuous numbering. See: Draft:Encyclopedia of American Loons. It's probably not going to come up often as an issue though. Bongolian (talk) 23:18, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
What I thought would work didn't work. I will have another go later, probably with some new css. Dysklyver 11:00, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

{{collist|1=3|2=
<ol start="9">
<li>Item 9</li>
<li>Item 10</li>
<li>Item 11</li>
</ol>
}}

{{div col | cols = 4 | colwidth = | rules = | small = | style = | content = <ol start="1"> ... </ol> }}
Dbz (talk) 19:38, 26 December 2018 (UTC) && 05:22, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

I've rethought the organization of the Draft:Encyclopedia of American Loons page, so I probably won't be using this. It's still a problem though, and I've encountered this sort of problem with nested commands before (e.g. notes that use footnotes, which the {{efn}} template solves). Bongolian (talk) 19:52, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Bongolian, do you have an example of this workaround: notes that use footnotes, which the {{efn}} template solves. – Dbz (talk) 06:42, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────For example, this code works:

{{efn|He was fluent in Hungarian and German, but his English was strongly accented. Trebitsch was also a miserably bad at [[Hebrew]], [[Latin]] and ancient Greek when he was a theology student.<ref name=wasserstein/>{{rp|42}}}}

But this equivalent code does not:

<ref>He was fluent in Hungarian and German, but his English was strongly accented. Trebitsch was also a miserably bad at [[Hebrew]], [[Latin]] and ancient Greek when he was a theology student.<ref name=wasserstein/>{{rp|42}}</ref>

Bongolian (talk) 07:53, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Known limitation per Nesting footnotes § What does not workWikipedia's W.svg: You cannot nest a footnote within a footnote that uses <ref>...</ref> tags, even if the footnotes belong to different groups. – Dbz (talk) 00:27, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Spammers getting more desperate?[edit]

I caught a BoN creating a spam page on another BoN page twice. See the history for: User talk:182.186.247.236.[2] There have been other spam edits on BoN pages before that I've seen but these were from newly created accounts rather than from BoNs. Maybe there needs to be a filter for this? Bongolian (talk) 09:04, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Well the old spammer method was to create accounts and then create spam pages, but since we enabled filter 57, the edit filter has been working overtime and blocked the spammers hundreds of times so that spam from registered accounts is basically stopped. The problem is that the filter is designed not to affect BoN's to avoid false positives, so they are covered by filter 58 instead. Filter 58 is less strict than 57 to take into account that BoN's commenting on talk pages is an obvious area for false positives. Thus, BoN's can still spam talk pages in some situations. Obviously we can make filter 58 stricter, but I have been holding off on that a bit really because we have some constructive BoN's as well. Dysklyver 12:40, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
I understand the reasoning. Thanks for the explanation. Bongolian (talk) 18:19, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Accidental IP edit[edit]

Hi, could someone pretty please replace an IP edit for my user account on this page. Much appreciated. Thanks a bunch.— Unsigned, by: MisterTwister / talk / contribs

@MisterTwister Sorry, it isn't possible to replace the IP with your username, but I have hidden the IP from public view. --RWRW (talk) 22:49, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
Though I think this user is maybe overly concerned about what an IP leaves exposed. I doubt anyone's going dox-hunting for a "citation needed" edit, and if they do, I'm not sure what an IP address tells anyone. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 22:54, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
@RWRW Thank you! @Ikanreed Agreed. — MisterTwister (talk) 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Could someone possibly suppress my IP on this page http://rationalwiki.nom.pw/w/indexphp?title=Rin_Flk&action=history I edited (although It wasn't really an edit more of blank and I didn't mean to) the page. (luckily it's been undone) I didn't have any experience with Wikipedia and I had no idea what I was doing and I can assure you it will never happen again. I was just being stupid and had no idea what I was doing, thank you and sorry again. Thank you for all the help, I talked to some people and will hopefully get it resolved, but it's all good now thank you! — Unsigned, by: Flaberjake / talk / contribs

Done. Dysklyver 09:45, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Saloon Bar edit blocked by filter?[edit]

Hello. I tried to make a comment on the Saloon bar subthread 'Deport Neo Nazis first. Illegal immigrants can wait.' but it was blocked by the filters. The comment was in response to Rationalzombie94's 2nd post. I can't post it here either. Should I PM it to someone? MirrorIrorriM (talk) 13:18, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Na, I will just make you autopatrolled and you should be able to make the edit. Dysklyver 13:33, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Inline math rendering[edit]

It appears to me that RationalWiki's rendering of inline mathematical variables and expressions is rather clumsy. Consider the following bit:

...where I(t) is the current as a function of time, R is the resistance, L the inductance, and C the capacitance.

And compare with with the same from Wikipedia. The variables don't stand on the same line. Is there a way to address this? Nerd (talk) 02:32, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Looks like there isn't much I can do then. Perhaps it will be fixed in the next software update. Nerd (talk) 03:38, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── The english wikipedia uses 118% for math fonts. — span.mwe-math-mathml-inline { font-size: 118%; } per MediaWiki:Common.css
mw:Extension:Math
mw:Extension:Math/advancedSettings

  • RW renders as PNG: ...53921.png
  • WP renders as SVG: <svg xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" width="1.583ex" height="2.176ex" style="" viewBox="0 -791.3 681.5 936.9" role="img" focusable="false" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" aria-labelledby="MathJax-SVG-1-Title"> <title id="MathJax-SVG-1-Title">{\displaystyle L}</title> <defs aria-hidden="true"> <path stroke-width="1" id="E1-MJMATHI-4C" d="M228 637Q194 637 192 641Q191 643 191 . . ."/> </defs> <g stroke="currentColor" fill="currentColor" stroke-width="0" transform="matrix(1 0 0 -1 0 0)" aria-hidden="true"> <use xlink:href="#E1-MJMATHI-4C" x="0" y="0"/> </g> </svg>

Dbz (talk) 04:28, 16 January 2019 (UTC) && 18:07, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

RationalWiki's math engine is two years older than Wikipedia's. But then RW is six MediaWiki versions out of date so that's to be expected really. Dysklyver 21:28, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
That explains everything. The rendering is in PNG and so appears pixelated, which is not a problem for SVG. I have thought that the software RW is outdated, having spent some time at Wikipedia, but I did not know it was that outdated. Anyway, thanks! Nerd (talk) 22:07, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

History merging[edit]

After a discussion in the Saloon about copy-paste vs. moving pages from Draftspace to Mainspace (RationalWiki:Saloon_bar#A_note_on_Draft_Space), it became apparent that there is a problem that the Special:MergeHistory should be able to solve. I knew that the Donald Trump page had been forked into several pages, so I tried the MergeHistory on one of the daughter pages (Trump-Russia connection), but it failed because "Source revisions overlap or come after destination revisions." Is there a way to fix this?

If not, might there be a way for pages moved out of Draftspace to Mainspace to get recorded as new Mainspace pages on here Special:NewPages? Bongolian (talk) 18:03, 22 January 2019 (UTC)